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Will your clutch last significantly longer if you rev-match your everyday downshifts around town?

  • Clutch will last significantly longer. And it sounds cool. Win-win!

  • No significant impact on longevity if not on the track. But it still sounds cool!

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Well the voting is in favor of rev-matching all the time.

So I guess I'd better submit to the peer pressure or buy a DCT 😂

The thing is, how do the rev-matchers here heel-toe in this car?? Do you guys all have aftermarket accelerator pedals? I mean my accelerator pedal is sitting at least two inches closer to the firewall than my brake pedal, and even with geisha feet and gymnast hips, I wouldn't be able to do anything remotely like this:


Clearly Subaru/Toyota aren't helping with this. Anyone care to share a video of rev-matching in this car?
 
Well the voting is in favor of rev-matching all the time.

So I guess I'd better submit to the peer pressure or buy a DCT 😂

The thing is, how do the rev-matchers here heel-toe in this car?? Do you guys all have aftermarket accelerator pedals? I mean my accelerator pedal is sitting at least two inches closer to the firewall than my brake pedal, and even with geisha feet and gymnast hips, I wouldn't be able to do anything remotely like this:


Clearly Subaru/Toyota aren't helping with this. Anyone care to share a video of rev-matching in this car?
Heel-toe is generally reserved for hard braking and the height difference between the pedals is actually advantageous in these conditions. A lot of people run the cusco extended accelerator pedal though, after the whole “unintended acceleration” debacle every car has the brake and accelerator way too far apart.
In everyday driving I select the correct gear prior to braking.
 
Discussion starter · #84 ·
Heel-toe is generally reserved for hard braking and the height difference between the pedals is actually advantageous in these conditions. A lot of people run the cusco extended accelerator pedal though, after the whole “unintended acceleration” debacle every car has the brake and accelerator way too far apart.
In everyday driving I select the correct gear prior to braking.
Distance apart is an issue if you are trying to do everything with the forefoot. But if you are trying to blip with your heel, I wouldn't think it's as big a deal. But I don't see how having the accelerator pedal so much lower than the brake pedal is "advantageous" for anyone. Seriously, I need to see a fellow 86-er in action! Let's start with RoseRedline since he's so constructive.
 
But I don't see how having the accelerator pedal so much lower than the brake pedal is "advantageous" for anyone.
When you’re braking to the floor, the gas pedal already being halfway there is much better than having to angle your heel up to hit a gas pedal that is now much higher than where your brake pedal is.
 
I heel toe fairly often on the street. While decelerating to a stop sign or red light I will start off by just rev matching downshifts to slow down. Once I get close enough to the stop or if I need to slow down faster than engine braking alone will allow I heel toe the last shift or 2. Honestly for me its more like "toe and toe" downshifting LOL. I use the ball under my big toe to push the brake on the inside and roll my ankle to blip the throttle with the same section of my foot under my little toes on the right side. I suppose its not "proper" but its easy for me. I guess its just from biggish feet. "Thats what she said"
 
^I do pretty much the same. Toe and toe and basically i usually cruise at 50-55 in 5th gear. When I know I have to stop I’ll shift 5-3 and then “heel toe” down into second. Pedal box does feel a little small for me to heel toe more properly in with street-friendly braking input.
 
I heel-toe on every downshift, but I have to say that I still don’t find the pedal placement as ideal as my Miata (which was perfect) was. I wish the brake pedal was a bit lower or gas pedal a bit higher.
 
I also use the balls-of-the-feet rev-matching method and I have feet on the narrower side. I tried using the "real" heel-toe method and found it unnecessarily awkward and difficult to do accurately. Started doing the two-sides-of-the-foot method and picked it up as quickly as I could feel out what speed in what gear should be what rpm, which is maybe an hour? It might help that I never held a car on a hill with the parking brake, but taught myself to deal with them by using the two sides of my right foot to hold the brake, then smoothly transition to throttle as I re-engaged the clutch, which is 3/4 of the job to rev match. Clutches should be nearly a lifetime component and should easily outlast the majority of automatic-type transmissions. 200k miles is what I consider a minimum for any remotely ordinary street car.
 
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