[Timster]

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[Orcygoodness1]

How are you going finding a speaker harness for the dash speaker/tweeter?
I have only found $40 ones on amazon so far. Not sure which Aerpro one will fit.

 

[Jimbob1]

How are you going finding a speaker harness for the dash speaker/tweeter?
I have only found $40 ones on amazon so far. Not sure which Aerpro one will fit.

I only received my speakers yesterday. Will have a go at installation over the weekend.

 

[Jimbob1]

OK so this is a learning experience for me. Despite knowing that we have the 6 speaker system I was kind of expecting to see a speaker and tweeter inside the dash. I guess the 8 speaker system has this setup and our's only has the tweeter in the dash.

As Orcy mentioned the adaptors are different due to the inline tweeter setup with the door speaker.

The connector has 4 pins. Two pins in for the tweeter and two pins out for the in series connected door speaker.

I guess my options are either bypass the tweeter and just use the two way speakers I've installed in the door. I think the Aerpro APS43 Aerpro | First Choice may fulfil that job. Or install the 4 inch speaker in replacement of the tweeter which may possibly work with the Aerpro APS44 Aerpro | First Choice adaptor.

I did learn that you cannot simply unplug the tweeter as the door speaker wont get a signal from the headunit. I am no expert when it comes to this stuff so this all trial and error for me.

 

[Danmac]

Appreciate the experiments. All Aussie GR86 are 6 speaker? Is that correct? Can a Coaxial Mid and Tweeter go in the dash? Is the dash fed an unfiltered full range signal? Do the rear speakers even matter?

I personally can live with the default set up. I have a pretty serious home audio rig so I feel I know good audio The car is noisy. Far from ideal as an audio environment. Lots of glass reflective surfaces too. However if I can plug n play better speakers I will do it.

Regarding noise. I have a roll of Dynamat lying around. I might have a go at the doors and roof. I noticed the doors have a plastic liner. That would need to be removed. Is that a problem? Has anyone seen a roof with removed headliner?

 

[Jimbob1]

Appreciate the experiments. All Aussie GR86 are 6 speaker? Is that correct? Can a Coaxial Mid and Tweeter go in the dash? Is the dash fed an unfiltered full range signal? Do the rear speakers even matter?

Yes, they are all 6 speaker. I have a 4 inch coax that I think will fit in the dash but I am tossing up whether to go that way or bypass the tweeter and rely on my upgraded coax in the door.

I've started replacing the rear speakers and its a massive pain. Almost regret starting that job

 

[Jimbob1]

OK so I've installed a set of Hertz 4 inch coaxial speakers in the rear. Kinda PITA job without much result. The stock bracket for the 2.5 inch speakers didnt even fit the magnet of the new 4 inch speaker. I hacked up the bracket to an inch of its life with tin snips and screwed in the new 4 inch speakers.

My APS32 speaker adaptor wires didnt fit so I hacked that up as well and plugged the de-gloved pins straight into the existing wiring harness plug. This didnt go so well as I managed to short out a speaker and had to dissemble the interior again to fix.

After nearly spending the entire day stuffing around with it the rear sounds ok-ish. Better than the stock rubbish speakers but there is just no body to them. I think the best option is just to fade the back out in the sound settings.

 

[Danmac]

So it seems just ignore the rear and focus on good door speakers and a quality solution for the dash.

 

[MikeVictor]

This is making me think the OEMAudio+ option might be the way to go and just bump up the speaker quality a bit.

 

[Jimbob1]

This is making me think the OEMAudio+ option might be the way to go and just bump up the speaker quality a bit.

I would have gone that way but I couldn’t stomach the price.

 

[Jimbob1]

I ended up bypassing the tweeters using Aepro 43 adaptor. So I am pretty much done tinkering now. End result sounds pretty good. Not amazing but it's certainly better than stock. The biggest difference is being able to pump up the volume and have a decent amount of bass without it sounding really bad. In summary I'm running a set of 6 inch Focus coaxials in the doors and 4 inch Hertz coaxials in the rear. The rear speakers are mostly faded out but still fill in a bit of volume at the back.

I considered adding a set of 4 inch coaxials in the dash but I couldn't get my head around the wiring. At the end of the day its a small cabin so its probably doesnt need a tonne of speakers in it anyway.

 

[Danmac]

Would be interested to hear peoples feedback on these settings. From a user at the GRZoo forums. I was suprised at the improvement. Settings look odd and run counter to HiFi ethos of removing artificial processing. Try it and let us know.

 

[Jimbob1]

Would be interested to hear peoples feedback on these settings. From a user at the GRZoo forums. I was suprised at the improvement. Settings look odd and run counter to HiFi ethos of removing artificial processing. Try it and let us know.

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I think it sounds a bit cleaner with those eq settings. But I don’t have a great ear for these finer settings.

 

[Orcygoodness1]

Thanks for your post Jimbob1. Why not leave the tweeters connected though? I just figure extra speaker = good.

 

[Jimbob1]

Thanks for your post Jimbob1. Why not leave the tweeters connected though? I just figure extra speaker = good.

The 6 inch speaker I put in the door is a 2 way speaker. I just figured the factory tweeter is probably rubbish so get rid of it.

 

[turboham]

Over the easter weekend while installing the Trac power mirror module I thought might as well replaced the OEM door speakers with minimum amount of time/effort. After some research, bought the Focal IS TOY 165 as it looks like 100% plug and play. I am super impressed with the end result as it is indeed 100% plug and play with very deep bass from the door speakers and the dash tweeters were unreal compared to OEM. I got it for $340 on Amazon plus $21 for the dynamat door speaker kit, 1/2 the cost of the OEMplusAudio base upgrade.

 

[Jimbob1]

1/2 the cost of the OEMplusAudio base upgrade.

Yeah the OEM + is such a massive rip off. The upgraded focals definitely punch much harder than stock.

 

[Orcygoodness1]

Turboham, good price. I presume you don't need speaker harnesses for that kit?
And is the door speaker kit the one that goes around the speaker? Or do you put it behind on the door panel?
Thanks

 

[turboham]

Turboham, good price. I presume you don't need speaker harnesses for that kit?
And is the door speaker kit the one that goes around the speaker? Or do you put it behind on the door panel?
Thanks

Yep no need for any adaptor or wiring harness. The Focal inverted dome tweeters which are thinner than OEM actually clip in tightly in the original OEM location. I stick the dynamat around the door speaker enclosure with speaker cutout stick onto the door metal behind the speaker.

Have been playing around with the EQ, bass heavy music at vol 20 and bass EQ +6 , the door mirror glass will begin to vibrate in the housing, and at vol 30 the window switches will rattle. Maybe dynamat the whole door might improve it but that defeats the original brief of minimum cost/effort as this car is not acoustically designed for high end listening and LOL anything over vol 20 is LOUD.

 

[Orcygoodness1]

Thanks. I am thinking those speaker baffle/kits will be easier than full door sound deadening and might be enough for me.
The Focal kits sound like the easy option and cheaper than OEM+. Glad it worked out for you.