As someone who has gotten the runaround at a subaru dealer when ordering, I think your situation is regrettable. I wonder how long this will take.

 

Was yours rebooting during the programming by chance? I believe that this is probably related to your battery not being sufficiently at the right voltage. I still need to bring mine in again for programming. I changed the battery to be safe as well.

 

They didn't mention any rebooting. As I mentioned, the engineers specifically mentioned the voltage so it seems they've covered that possibility. It also seems like something engineers from two car companies could figure out pretty quickly but /shrug.

The car doesn't even need the DCM to function perfectly well. @pandafabrications deleted it. The base BRZ doesn't even ship with it.

Interesting. That's good to know. To be honest, I don't particularly care about the DCM so I wouldn't mind it being removed. I never could get the remote start and what not working in the first place and have zero use for it. At this point, I'm mostly having them fix it just for the lulz.

 

The car doesn't even need the DCM to function perfectly well. @pandafabrications deleted it. The base BRZ doesn't even ship with it.

 

The car doesn't even the DCM to function perfectly well. @pandafabrications deleted it.

Good writeup, will do.

 

So glad I didnt take my car in for this "recall". Best of luck!

 

the service advisory is only to fix the ability to use the app. without a DCM or an unfunctioning DCM all you have is no app features. aka same as you did before you brought it in. I do wonder though since they said its throwing errors what that even means. maybe go and say listen this shit is redic and im considering taking my car. i want a service tech or advisor to sit in the passenger seat with me and i take my car for a drive. if it looks normal then maybe just say fuck it call me when you think you got something figured out. until then eat a big ass dick

 

The DCM is bad news. It is used to spy on you and track your movement/driving habits. Toyota claims the DCM is for calling emergency vehicles after an accident; this is a cover, so that people don't question why the system is constantly reporting the car's location to the nearest cell tower, and then on to Toyota's database. I declined the DCM recall for this reason. I don't like "connected vehicles."

 

What does Toyota do with this data?

 

I drive the manual, so remote start doesn't work anyways. And I have no intention of paying for the remote lock/unlock features after the trial runs out. With that known, is there really any reason whatsoever for me to get this recall taken care of? I have nothing against it but I'm a lazy motherfucker . This post is really turning me away from getting this work done.

 

I guess if you sell your car there will be an open non-safety-related recall. Just explain to the buyer why you didn’t take it in.

 

Does the base GR86 have the DCM?

I’ve never even checked cause I thought the base came with the least amount of electronic stuff and they would put that on higher trim cars. I’m going to remove this big brother spyware if it has it now that I know about it.

 

Does the base GR86 have the DCM?

I’ve never even checked cause I thought the base came with the least amount of electronic stuff and they would put that on higher trim cars. I’m going to remove this big brother spyware if it has it now that I know about it.

The other thread about removing the DCM someone said that all GR86's have it and all BRZ's except the base model MT has it.

 

Wow, so sorry you're dealing with this BS. I literally just took my BRZ in this past Tuesday for the recall and it was a tad over an hour from when I dropped it off to when I was in it and drove it home.

 

keep in mind almost everyone has a device in their pocket at all times that has GPS, emits radio waves/radiation and has a microphone. why would anyone care where your car is or isn't

 

Because your car can get you from point A to point B relatively quickly; your phone cannot. Your car is a greater tool for personal autonomy/freedom of movement than your phone is. AI wants to control your movements, so your car is a top priority for AI to track/control. Make sense?

 

The DCM has a very specific function of enabling remote functions in the car. This includes:

• Remote start (A/T only)
• Other remote features like unlocking doors, HVAC controls, etc.
• Tracking the car for theft recovery
• Setting the clock time automatically
• Calling roadside service
• Calling emergency vehicles
• Probably maybe Sirius XM?

Removing the DCM does not affect Eyesight or any safety systems. All the logic for Eyesight is contained in the camera module or one of the other computer modules. No data is transmitted or received for Eyesight to function.

Bluetooth is a function of the head unit and is not related to the DCM. In fact, the service manual has special steps for cars being worked on that do not have a DCM where a phone is connected with bluetooth in order to set the clock time of the head unit.

The radio is a function of the head unit and is not related to the DCM.

 

Does the BRZ Premium 6MT (no DCM) have Sirius radio?

 

Yes, the XM functionality is integrated into the radio not the DCM. The XM antenna is integrated into the same housing as the FM antenna but can be independently disconnected.

Does the BRZ/86 have any 5G connectivity without DCM?

If we’re being technically accurate there’s no 5G connectivity whatsoever. The FCC ID on the DCM indicates it is only 3G/4G LTE capable.
There’s nothing outside of the DCM that has a network connection. Here’s subaru’s internal documentation on the telematics system.

How does the push-button start work? Is it a signal sent to start the engine after button is pressed, or is it physically wired?

All of the communication between systems in the car is hardwired with the exception of TPMS sensors which communicate via radio with the TPMS module, by necessity. The push to start switch sends a simple negative trigger to the immobilizer module, which then authenticates the key code. Key code is either picked up by the interior keyless antenna, or via the backup induction coil located in the PTS switch if the key’s battery is dead or if its RFID transmitter has been disabled via the button combo in the owner’s manual. Once key code is authenticated, immobilizer sends the OK signal to the engine control module which enables fuel injection, triggers the starter relay, and allows the car to start.

So yes, after the key code is received, it’s all hardwired.

 

Why the future of the automotive industry is connected cars | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
Does the BRZ/86 have any 5G connectivity without DCM? How does the push-button start work? Is it a signal sent to start the engine after button is pressed, or is it physically wired?

 

I have no intention of humoring actual schizos.

 

I took my 2022 BRZ in to get the DCM reprogrammed, but I live in MA so StarLink is disabled anyway. Figured it could help a few things such as my hyperflash issue with my left blinker. Nope, brought it to the dealer, they held it for 30 minutes and then came back and told me they didn't even have the stuff to reprogram it. Took my car back that night. And holy hell am I happy I did.

 

Conspiracy theorists derail every mundane and cordial discussion. Fuckin wacko over here talking about how satellites aren't real in a Gr. 86 forum. Lmao

 

insane conspiracy bro also thinks AI is demonic lmao

https://www.gr86.org/threads/ai-generated-pizza-commercial.7419

 

Lady serving up burritos at Hot Head just said she’s worried about Earth flying through space with nothing to stop gravity from pulling it down. But she said some of her friends are nuts because they believe Earth is flat and NASA never went to the moon. Instead, they went to the bottom of the ocean and found something they don’t want to tell us about.

Good job, America’s K-12.

 

Good job, America’s K-12.

Public schools aren’t to blame for this one. This 💩 ain’t in the curriculum.

 

 

now thats somethin i can get behind

 

I actually have an update to post!

May 17, 2023 (+40 days)

Got the call from the dealer that they finally got it going. Apparently they figured out an "alternative" install procedure that allowed the DCM to programmed with the new software. Picking the car up tomorrow.

Hopefully my pain will help out some other people when they're doing this...

(Now to see what the lawyers can figure out about this whole situation.)

 

I just received another notice in the mail to get this done. Threw that in the trash real quick!

 

It's amazing how different this car feels after you've been driving a camry around for a month. Rofl.

Final word from the service manager is still a wtf. Apparently they just keep trying until the update took. He said something about needing to keep the voltage within one decimal point. Which the TSB does call out the voltage needing to be 13.5V.

I'm assuming the module has some anti-brick protection that prevents the update if things get out of whack. So either older cars have stronger protections or... IDK. Maybe the LED dome lights were drawing too much power?? Rofl.

Good showing Toyobaru.

 

Decided to pay the $8 to sign up for remote connect. It's not working. Says my subscription is expired even when the subscription page says it's active. I'm gonna give it 24 hours and try again.

Edit: Works now. So it wasn't all for absolutely nothing.

 

May 21, 2023 (day 3)
I brought my GR86 2022 to a Massachusetts dealer for second-year oil change and state inspection on Thursday, May 18. They performed RECALL 23TD03R2 'Health Check -- No Reflash Required' and returned the car to me after 2 hours. TPMS data wiped out. Tire pressure warning dash light flashing and steady. Dealer has no idea what happened. I have the car back after a second hour-and-a-half visit today, Sunday May 21. Really hope this will not be a 40-day event.

 

The amazing thing about this is the "no reflash required" part. They didn't have to do anything to your car and they still messed something up. That's some dedication.

 

Tuesday, May 23 (day 6)
Third dealer service visit for tire pressure warning dash light and no TPMS data on original wheels/tires/sensors. Service manager said he’d confirmed the GR86 stores 8 TPMS settings — well, glad they’re up to speed on that.

 

Knowledgeable computer tech tried several steps to fix dash tire light warning & blank TPMS display of original tire sensors following Telematic / DCM install last Thursday while at dealer for free new car oil change.

—Sensors not reading in data list, did signal ck, still nothing.
—Tried tire pressure reset (also done several times at home).
—Tried scan sensors with aftermarket reader, did not pick up any signal on any wheel.
—Road tested sensors still not reading.
—Inflated & deflated and reset tire pressures, all still dead none will scan.

Those are the notes. Car was returned to me reprogrammed with codes but blank data screen display, which isn’t mentioned in notes. It took 45 minutes for TP screen to refresh. They could not confirm 2nd set of codes for winter set is saved. Gave me written promise of free reprogram if winter switch is a problem.

 

Knowledgeable computer tech tried several steps to fix dash tire light warning & blank TPMS display of original tire sensors following Telematic / DCM install last Thursday while at dealer for free new car oil change.

—Sensors not reading in data list, did signal ck, still nothing.
—Tried tire pressure reset (also done several times at home).
—Tried scan sensors with aftermarket reader, did not pick up any signal on any wheel.
—Road tested sensors still not reading.
—Inflated & deflated and reset tire pressures, all still dead none will scan.

Those are the notes. Car was returned to me reprogrammed with codes but blank data screen display. It took 45 minutes for TP screen to refresh. They could not confirm 2nd set of codes for winter set is saved. Gave me written promise of free reprogram if winter switch is a problem.

Man... it would feel silly to lemon law a car due to TPMS sensors but... Just saying to keep good records and copies of the repair orders/invoices in case you end up needing to contact a lawyer.