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Go buy a high-mileage M4 and some snow tires. It has a traction mode meant for snow.

It also weighs a million pounds and has 400 horsepower. Go nuts.
 

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Thanks for all the replies, I think what bothers her most is A) she can’t drive a manual (doesn’t want to learn either) and B) it’s to small to pack suit cases and stuff and go on vacation. I went to check out a TRD Camry today and when I got there it was gone (I take it as a omen that I’m not meant to sell the 86)
She complains every time she gets in it, and she’s only 5’3” I’m 6” and 250lbs and I fit fine.
We don’t have any kids and we are both in our mid 40’s so that’s never gonna happen. The day I brought it home she’s been irked by it.
 

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No kids means u don't need the bigger vehicle! That being said is it actually feasible for you to have multiple vehicles? Is it a 1 vehicle family? Does she have her own car as well?
If there's more than 1 vehicle already, I don't see any reason for you to need to get rid of it.

I am married with 2 young children. I have a Mazda5 I use as the people mover, I used to have a Lexus LS we used as my main car , plenty of room to fit the 2 car seats and still haul around with something nice.

Eventually I decided I need something more fun (early midlife crisis?) Now I have the mazda5 still and my 86, whenever we don't need to take the kids we take the 86, my wife likes as she used to drive my previous cars too, from swapped and turbo charged hondas, to a full stiff and low suspension turbo 240, and Lexi(plural?)
 

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Not being able to drive manual is a good reason to be frustrated by the vehicle. Many people (vast majority these days) see it as a chore rather than enjoyment. And like others have said, if it's a single vehicle... totally understandable, but if it's a second/multi car household I don't see the issue.

It also is very low (probably more how low it is than the physical dimensions) - so when you're next to a suburban or tractor trailer, yeah i get a little nervous as well.

I have travelled with the 86 (1 large suitcase and bags) it did fit in the trunk (barely) - but if I had myself and spouse in the same car - yeah that would be a Jenga challenge for sure - even with the seats down.
 
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My wife was won over by the cup holders. When it was new and we were showing it to friends and family, she’d wait for me to wind down describing it and say, “It has five cup holders!” 😄
 

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Thanks for all the replies, I think what bothers her most is A) she can’t drive a manual (doesn’t want to learn either) and B) it’s to small to pack suit cases and stuff and go on vacation. I went to check out a TRD Camry today and when I got there it was gone (I take it as a omen that I’m not meant to sell the 86)
She complains every time she gets in it, and she’s only 5’3” I’m 6” and 250lbs and I fit fine.
We don’t have any kids and we are both in our mid 40’s so that’s never gonna happen. The day I brought it home she’s been irked by it.
She hates the ingress/egress. I get it.

The luggage part... fold the rear seats?

Otherwise, Hyundai Elantra N or Mazda 3 Turbo sedan.

Not that I want you giving up the GR, but if a compromise has to be made, that Elantra N is no joke and likely doesn't even need mods.
 

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She hates the ingress/egress. I get it.

The luggage part... fold the rear seats?

Otherwise, Hyundai Elantra N or Mazda 3 Turbo sedan.

Not that I want you giving up the GR, but if a compromise has to be made, that Elantra N is no joke and likely doesn't even need mods.
I was looking at that Elantra N and it does make some serious power but wow is it fugly. The 86 looks like a piece of art compared to it.
 

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I was looking at that Elantra N and it does make some serious power but wow is it fugly. The 86 looks like a piece of art compared to it.
When I was cross shopping it with the GR86, a part of me wasn't even bothered with it for some reason. There are better looking sedans, sure, but it was only the Elantra N where I felt the car was "complete" and outside of fluids, I wouldn't need to upgrade it. It was easily a Top 5 car for me, but the Civic Si was #2. Like the car is ugly enough to not get randomly scratched at a shopping parking lot.

It's not just the power. The overall package from factory is well done.

FWIW, if you paint parts of the plastic front bumper to the OEM car color, it looks a ton better. They showed it briefly on a rendering on Throttle House.
 

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Thanks for all the replies, I think what bothers her most is A) she can’t drive a manual (doesn’t want to learn either) and B) it’s to small to pack suit cases and stuff and go on vacation. I went to check out a TRD Camry today and when I got there it was gone (I take it as a omen that I’m not meant to sell the 86)
She complains every time she gets in it, and she’s only 5’3” I’m 6” and 250lbs and I fit fine.
We don’t have any kids and we are both in our mid 40’s so that’s never gonna happen. The day I brought it home she’s been irked by it.
Can you get her a car she likes? She can drive that, and you can use it for trips.
When you're flying solo, you take the 86. It becomes your happy place.
 

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What I'd like to know is this: would she tolerate you griping and complaining about a car she picked to the point that she felt like she needed to sell it to preserve matrimonial harmony? The devil in me would want to just mercilessly rag on whatever the next car is and complain about how bored you are riding around in a giant shoe box.
 

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The cup holders is hilarious Ritter 🤣 I am on the record somewhere poking fun of reviews complaining about them and me saying it’s not a buffet it’s a sports car and I’m about to be a hypocrite 🤣 That drivers side drink holder and I are close to fisticuffs. If I forget to grab my drink before opening the door it will splash onto the cloth if my .5 litre drink is nearly full.
 

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Thanks for all the replies, I think what bothers her most is A) she can’t drive a manual (doesn’t want to learn either) and B) it’s to small to pack suit cases and stuff and go on vacation.
If it'll fit four tires, it'll fit whatever a reasonable person would pack for vacation. The way my wife packs, though... it could be a tight fit. :LOL:

But her daily driver's a VW Tiguan. That's the family hauler for kids, dogs, vacations, etc.

I was looking at that Elantra N and it does make some serious power but wow is it fugly.
Amen. The car's a heck of a performer, but Hyundai's current body styling is hideous.

I don't know if anyone's mentioned a VW Jetta GLI yet. You mentioned you don't like hatches and it's essentially the sedan version of the GTI. I don't think it's nearly as handsome as the GTI, but it's not awful, either. Just kinda boring (but looks pretty decent in certain colors).
 

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I hope Jetta quality has improved since the 80s. I had 2 and they were CRAP! The first one I owned developed an electrical problem that even an auto electrical specialist couldn’t fix. The other one was a SNOOZE😴
 

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The car's a heck of a performer, but Hyundai's current body styling is hideous.
I think it would be worth poking around about forums and Reddit on the opinions of other folk's experiences with Hyundai dealerships. I have many friends that have 1st hand experience that have sworn the brand off forever. I have never owned one so I have no personal example to give towards this opinion. Toyota has been very good to me, dealer is great, 0 problems whatsoever so I haven't really been given a reason to leave the Toyota brand as of today.
 

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I really love my car but the wife keeps insisting it’s to small and not safe for everyday driving. Plus with winter she is worried about the RWD
So with that said I’ve begun looking for other vehicles.
I don't mean to ruffle any feathers with this comment and might get called out, but why do most married men always have to answer to their wife when picking/ choosing a car (or anything) they want? If you're buying it with your own hard earned money and isn't the only car, whats the issue? If you were an enthusiast before you met her, why does that have to change now? If I want a sports car I'm buying it regardless of my wife's input, she knows who she married.
Is this your guys' only car? If that's the case I can see why your wife would want to say sayonara.
This would be a reason I would sympathize, if something more practical should be considered.
these posts are never about the wife not wanting the car but more about another thing that is pulling attention away from them.
How would the spouse ever find joy if he always has to consider her feelings? Obviously this isn't the case in all things and some adjustments can be made on how much time you spend with said items or hobbies, but c'mon. "I don't want you buying that car because you'll give it more attention than me." Build a bridge and get over it.
 

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The cup holders is hilarious Ritter 🤣 I am on the record somewhere poking fun of reviews complaining about them and me saying it’s not a buffet it’s a sports car and I’m about to be a hypocrite 🤣 That drivers side drink holder and I are close to fisticuffs. If I forget to grab my drink before opening the door it will splash onto the cloth if my .5 litre drink is nearly full.
I did this the other day!
Sat in, put my coffee in there since my center cup holders had my phone in there and closed the door, so lucky the lid was closed, even so it splashed out but stayed mostly on the lid
 

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I think it would be worth poking around about forums and Reddit on the opinions of other folk's experiences with Hyundai dealerships. I have many friends that have 1st hand experience that have sworn the brand off forever. I have never owned one so I have no personal example to give towards this opinion. Toyota has been very good to me, dealer is great, 0 problems whatsoever so I haven't really been given a reason to leave the Toyota brand as of today.
My one experience with a Hyundai dealership was scheduling a test drive of a non-Hyundai used vehicle they had on the lot. It was a two-hour drive from home. Scheduling a test drive was bizarre. Every time I called I went into a pool of telephone answerers and got a different one each time and had to explain the situation. Finally got an appointment.

When I arrived, the salesperson and vehicle were nowhere to be found. Turned out he had gone to start it and it needed a battery. So they jumped it, went to the shop and put a battery in it, and delivered it to me already running and warmed up. Um, no. I said I wanted a cold start. Seatbelt was broken on driver’s side and vehicle was way worse in person than in pics. I drove it anyway just to get a feel for the model but I had no intention of buying that thing from that place.
 
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