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What car would you sell or trade your 86 for?

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86eightsix

Discussion Starter · 25 d ago

I don't own an 86 yet but likely will soon, but wanted to see what other cars current owners would get rid of theirs for, before I take the plunge. I'm still open to other sporty cars, 2 doors or 4, RWD or FWD, etc. As long as it's well sorted then I will probably like it.

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SkyDog

· #2 · 25 d ago

There’s no other current-model car in the price range of the BRZ/GR86 that I’d rather have …or else I would’ve bought it instead.

That said, the other car I strongly considered was a VW GTI. I wanted something fun and needed more practicality than a Miata. I decided I could live without (usable) back seats, so I went with the BRZ.

Jason Cammisa did a great YouTube video for Hagerty comparing those three cars:

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Liquidsnake

· #3 · 25 d ago

Used Audi S3. Under 20k miles.
Used Toyota Supra. Also under 20k miles.

brzCPA

· #4 · 25 d ago

Porsche Cayman. But it would have to be new and a manual. I wouldn’t pay twice the price, but I would consider an even trade.

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Blighty

· #5 · 25 d ago

Without hesitation - A Lotus Elan +2S 130. I actually saw one online in Aus and offered a straight up swap - unfortunately they were not interested in another car.

I've never driven one before, but I've been in love with them for 30 odd years.

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illuminarias

· #6 · 25 d ago

FD3S or F82 M4. I hate reliability.

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boristetica

· #7 · 25 d ago

If I had the cash, I'd trade up to an FL5 Civic Type R. Around GR86/BRZ price range, nothing else since I wouldn't really shop used market.

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Singleminded

· #8 · 25 d ago

Like a lot of sports car guys I'd love to have a 911. But that's such a different kind of car (price aside) that it's not a good comparison. To me the closest thing to the Twins is the Cayman, but I'd want it NA, not turbo, which means either the $100K GT4 or a several-year-old used one. And in either case you're talking a high cost of ownership. And having something so precious would actually kill some of the fun of ownership. I love that this car is so great yet not a life changing investment.

Sure, there are plenty of sporty cars -- including much faster ones -- in the "affordable" 30-45K category, such as Mustangs and Camaros. But those are as different in character from the Twins as is the 911.

So basically there's no other car I'd realistically trade this for. If someone would give me a 100k car for mine I'd be like, sure bud, no problem. But then I'd sell that 100k car, buy another Twin and pocket the difference!

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Duchess

· #9 · 25 d ago

To take over as an only car like mine is, there's nothing new at any price. One of my own designs, but that would cost more to build and a 1+1 is an iffy only vehicle.

comet

· #10 · 25 d ago

There's not anything new at the same price, although I like the Civic SI and it's definitely the better daily car.
Otherwise here are just cars I'd probably give this up for with money and good logic aside:

FK8 or FL5 civic type r
Maybe a GR Corolla?
RX7 FD
Even less reasonable but I wouldn't object to it lol:
any gen GT-R tbh
Most 911 trims

Basically, no new coupes beat this car for the price IMO.
If you are looking for a bit more practicality, yeah the GTI and Civic SI are worth looking at. Anything else new that you'd probably like would be hard to find or in another price range.

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TurBRO

· #11 · 25 d ago

I was looking at used Jag f type Rs for a while. But decided to save money and got my project GR86.

oomfie

· #12 · 25 d ago

Honda S660

Mario0617

· #13 · 25 d ago

A really clean prior gen M2. But I already own one old needy bmw so I’d rather not have that become the entire of my stable

Andres

· #14 · 25 d ago

I regret selling my 2017 WRX STI Premium when I did. I was keen to try something RWD (the tuned STI was almost wasted on the street) but I had in the back of my mind I could always buy the next generation. Fast forward to 2021/22 and the STI is no longer made. All it's AWD competitors are too soulless (Golf R) or too exxy (Audi S5 / Merc A45).

I haven't owned a FWD with a LSD, but the tuned Octiavia RS and Fiesta ST just weren't for me in the power-on handling department. Even if they were actually pretty spritely around a track.

I really wanted 'emergency' back seats, so the only contemporary competitor in RWD/Manual platform was a second hand M2. But a second hand euro didn't match my risk profile

TurBRO

· #15 · 25 d ago

Andres said:
I regret selling my 2017 WRX STI Premium when I did. I was keen to try something RWD (the tuned STI was almost wasted on the street) but I had in the back of my mind I could always buy the next generation. Fast forward to 2021/22 and the STI is no longer made. All it's AWD competitors are too soulless (Golf R) or too exxy (Audi S5 / Merc A45).

I haven't owned a FWD with a LSD, but the tuned Octiavia RS and Fiesta ST just weren't for me in the power-on handling department. Even if they were actually pretty spritely around a track.

I really wanted 'emergency' back seats, so the only contemporary competitor in RWD/Manual platform was a second hand M2. But a second hand euro didn't match my risk profile

That's why you go salvage. Salvage m2s and M3 s are a dime a dozen. Parts are everywhere. Power is cheap. Run e85 and boost to the moon and beyond. If it blows then that's just more instagram views and you buy another one for parts off auction.

Kosh

· #16 · 25 d ago

GR86 or BRZ2

fameone

· #17 · 25 d ago

Nothing. I say that with a straight face.

If I could justify the purchase, a 718 Cayman GT4RS. I don't think I'd get bored with it, but despite the massive performance gain, I think I'd lose something important considering the GR86 suits my lifestyle perfectly.

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lbs

· #18 · 25 d ago

GT3 without RS

CanyonDriver

· #19 · 24 d ago (Edited)

SkyDog said:
There’s no other current-model car in the price range of the BRZ/GR86 that I’d rather have …or else I would’ve bought it instead.

That said, the other car I strongly considered was a VW GTI. I wanted something fun and needed more practicality than a Miata. I decided I could live without (usable) back seats, so I went with the BRZ.

Jason Cammisa did a great YouTube video for Hagerty comparing those three cars:

Ah yes, the video that convinced me to buy the car in the first place.

There's different choices now. The new Elantra N has a better design. Civic Sis may not have mark up. Same for Integra A-Spec 6MT. But in the end, these are all FWD, more practical, but also heavier.

Going the used route: 128i, 135i (like TheSmokingTire build), 230i, M240i and use the excess money to update all maintenance and maybe some upgrades to make the first couple years "trouble free."

Caymans are obvious, but the maintenance costs are no joke either.

SkyDog

· #20 · 24 d ago

CanyonDriver said:
Ah yes, the video that convinced me to buy the car in the first place.

There's different choices now. The new Elantra N has a better design. Civic Sis may not have mark up. Same for Integra A-Spec 6MT. But in the end, these are all FWD, more practical, but also heavier.

Going the used route: 128i, 135i (like TheSmokingTire build), 230i, M240i and use the excess money to update all maintenance and maybe some upgrades to make the first couple years "trouble free."

I think we're on the same page.

The Hagerty videos weren't the thing that convinced me to buy this car, but they certainly influenced the decision. The "Goldilocks" description of the BRZ was perfect for me. Perfectly in the middle of the "fun<------> practicality" spectrum between the Miata and the GTI.

As for those 1-series BMWs you mentioned... Back when I had my E46, I test-drove a 135i while I had the car at the dealership for service. That little car was a blast. I would've considered it if (1) it still existed, and (2) I wasn't painfully aware of how much "fun" it is to maintain a high-mileage BMW.

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