Would you guys choose the Toyota 86 or Subaru BRZ and why?
It's all about how the front end looks in the sheet metal. The recent artist renditions of the 86 based on the Australian filing are pretty "blah" - really a pretty characterless front end. So the question is whether "blah" or "quirky" looks better in actual execution.Would you guys choose the Toyota 86 or Subaru BRZ and why?
My objection to the Supra goes well beyond the nose, which is more of a minor miscue. All the weird swoops, odd lines and fake vents just make it a hot mess from a styling point of view. I get that Toyota needed to make it look different from its BMW antecedent, but that should have been possible without all the gimmickry. Maybe somethin more like:Well that photo shop seems like a logical design way to distance the 86 from the BRZ and at least identify the 86 as the Supra's Toyota brother. This was sort of what I envisioned the 86 to look like. Obviously a mule is a mule. It has little bearing on the final design other than headlamps. I personally agree that it looks more natural on the 86 than the Supra. Remember also that the final design of the Supra was really a compromise. What I mean is that the show car was a bit longer and had a longer hood. However the final design had to fit into the platform parameters of the BMW Z4. That made the hood and the overall car shorter thereby compromising the original show car design.
If a vent is actually moving air, it has a real purpose. There are a couple of odd details in the new car's styling that look like they actually have an aerodynamic effect. The front wheel well vents are definitely real and evacuating air from the wheel wells would have a couple of beneficial effects. Even the side sills look like they will actually be directing air to keep it from spilling underneath the car. I wish the execution of the rear of the sill was better, but you can't have everything.Well now your really talking Ferrari Roma as the consummate Euro GT that comes the closest to this picture. The older Supra was significantly larger and seemed a little more GT like. As for the new Supra I would not mind the scoops so much if they were actually "functional" At least with the BRZ Subaru must have had a hand with the front side scoops and behind the front wheels as well. They do actually serve a function and I respect that.
Welcome to the forum @levingt8.I'd prefer the 86 but more confirmed details needed.
Welcome to the forum @SonofZ.The build division appears to be 75% Subaru, 25% Toyota approximately. I have seen quit a bit of the new BRZ and find the styling pleasing. Therefore, I plan on cutting out the middle man (Toyota) and buy a BRZ. This will be like the second coming of the Datsun 240Z.
Nah. Having been a car geek at the time, the 240Z was the combination of an earthquake, a tsunami, and a hurricane. It really landed in a market segment that didn't exist before Datsun made it. Its price competitors were rolling antiques like the Triumph TR-6 and MGB (ladder frames, repurposed OHV sedan engines, live axles) and its performance competition was cars like the Porsche 914-6 and the entry level 911, which were far more expensive.The build division appears to be 75% Subaru, 25% Toyota approximately. I have seen quit a bit of the new BRZ and find the styling pleasing. Therefore, I plan on cutting out the middle man (Toyota) and buy a BRZ. This will be like the second coming of the Datsun 240Z.