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New GR86 would use the FA24 engine from the Subaru Outback and the Ascent where it makes 260hp and 277lb-ft of torque.


 

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This is all unsubstantiated speculation at this point. Can we wait for actual info from a reliable source before sending the hype train off the rails?
 

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This is all unsubstantiated speculation at this point. Can we wait for actual info from a reliable source before sending the hype train off the rails?
As far as I can tell, rumors that are backed up with slides from official presentations tend to be pretty legit. All aboard the hype train!
 

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As far as I can tell, rumors that are backed up with slides from official presentations tend to be pretty legit. All aboard the hype train!
Where does the slide say anything except for launch timeframe?
There is also no evidence it's an official Toyota slide deck
 

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Good point. I just suspect that it seems like a real stretch to release the image and then make up some other stuff. Doesn't seem realistic.
 

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Good point. I just suspect that it seems like a real stretch to release the image and then make up some other stuff. Doesn't seem realistic.
Fair, but I've seen crazier fakes.

The power figure is pure speculation based on the availability of the FA24 and the B48 in the Supra.
Honestly my biggest worry is that with 260hp will come a ~3100lb curb weight, and that would kill the spirit of the 1st gen.
 

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AMEN! That's a big concern.
Honestly, I loved the original when everyone bitched out it. I thought it was great. Sure it could use a bit more power, but I like it anyway.

I definitely don't want a porker. You have to think it will get a bit heavier though.

The one thing I think gives some real hope is that Toyota bumped the Supras power rating this year. So that makes a 260-hp GR86 much more realistic.
 

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AMEN! That's a big concern.
Honestly, I loved the original when everyone bitched out it. I thought it was great. Sure it could use a bit more power, but I like it anyway.

I definitely don't want a porker. You have to think it will get a bit heavier though.

The one thing I think gives some real hope is that Toyota bumped the Supras power rating this year. So that makes a 260-hp GR86 much more realistic.
Did they bump the 4-cyl too?
 

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The 4-cyl Supra? That's not even technically for sale yet.

I believe it'll make 255-hp.
 

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AMEN! That's a big concern.
Honestly, I loved the original when everyone bitched out it. I thought it was great. Sure it could use a bit more power, but I like it anyway.

I definitely don't want a porker. You have to think it will get a bit heavier though.

The one thing I think gives some real hope is that Toyota bumped the Supras power rating this year. So that makes a 260-hp GR86 much more realistic.
A porker is precisely what the Supra 2.0 will be and its where the GR86 fills in as an agile alternative. Its for the average person. The same type that bought a base, non-turbo MKIII or MKIV Supra. Great way for Toyota to milk the Supra for all they can.
 

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the new supra doesn't even have a toyota engine, so i don't think it's relevant... they should have released the car with this 'upgraded' engine from the getgo, but i am almost certain they had some bpa with bmw that didn't allow them to do so [same reason why the supra comes with the older version of idrive].

of course, the gr86 will not have a toyota engine as well, but at least they co-developed the fa platform...

exhaust upgrade + e85 + tune will easily push it to 300+ rwhp, so i am not worried about the power... shedding weight is much more difficult.

the current gen clocks the scale at ~2800 lbs., which is great in this day and age, imo... hopefully they can keep it under 3000 lbs. for the upcoming version.
 
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