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I am an old guy who has driven/owned many fast cars,motorcycles,3 wheelers, and I still have my 88 Quadzilla. The point is that I love to drive fast and always have. I am unclear about the hatred of automatic transmissions in the GR. I had a corvette that lifted the front end off the ground at 135. I had an automatic 2013 FRS as my sales rep job in SoCal traffic doing 35000 miles a year (馃槖) and I loved having the automatic. I had 1 of 350 1993 RX7's in CYM and it was the best driving car at high speed. I did 184 in that 5 speed and it stuck to the road like glue. With dual clutch automatic transmissions they have become quicker than ever before. I looked up some supercars and many have automatic transmissions such as the 2022 Mclaren 720S( 0 to 60 in 2.8 ang gets 22mpg ). If you happen to see an old guy passing you in an orange SE automatic its possibly me so just wave, beep your horn and smile because my knees are bad so I can't push a clutch anymore and I can barely see you. The real advantage of driving the manual these days is that you feel more engaged in the driving process AND that ALOT of people don't know how to do it. If you read my rambling thoughts, I thank you and happy motoring however you choose to do it... I hope to live long enough to take delivery LOL
 

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LOL! I was reading until the above statement.
It was a 1981 stock corvette with a 4 speed trans and an odometer that only went to 80. I had to back off when the steering became " light ". I was racing a guy on a bike and flagged him down to ask how fast we were going when felt unsafe. He said just under 135. You don't really think I meant I was pulling a wheel stand at 135 ? I would like a ride in a vette like that ! Too bad you quit reading
 

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A few things to consider: Can you drive a manual? Do you absolutely have to have a manual? Do you want to wait for a manual?

I ended up with an auto because I jumped on a car that was in-transit. I traded a Focus ST for it. I miss the stick and third pedal, but I also enjoy the adaptive cruise control and inherent smoothness. It's just a matter of what you want. Don't let anyone shame you out of an auto.
Not to worry...shame is not part of my game. !
 

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I am an old guy who has driven/owned many fast cars,motorcycles,3 wheelers, and I still have my 88 Quadzilla. The point is that I love to drive fast and always have. I am unclear about the hatred of automatic transmissions in the GR. I had a corvette that lifted the front end off the ground at 135. I had an automatic 2013 FRS as my sales rep job in SoCal traffic doing 35000 miles a year (馃槖) and I loved having the automatic. I had 1 of 350 1993 RX7's in CYM and it was the best driving car at high speed. I did 184 in that 5 speed and it stuck to the road like glue. With dual clutch automatic transmissions they have become quicker than ever before. I looked up some supercars and many have automatic transmissions such as the 2022 Mclaren 720S( 0 to 60 in 2.8 ang gets 22mpg ). If you happen to see an old guy passing you in an orange SE automatic its possibly me so just wave, beep your horn and smile because my knees are bad so I can't push a clutch anymore and I can barely see you. The real advantage of driving the manual these days is that you feel more engaged in the driving process AND that ALOT of people don't know how to do it. If you read my rambling thoughts, I thank you and happy motoring however you choose to do it... I hope to live long enough to take delivery LOL
My challenger was my first manual car and I was convinced by peers that it was 鈥渢he only way to go鈥 for that platform prior to this I had a 2009 CTS rwd that had less power than my challenger but was auto, and me and my girlfriend discuss this often due to 鈥渓ess to do鈥 you do find yourself speeding or excessively accelerating and likewise I drove that car much harder than anything I have ever owned, the challenger is 鈥渇aster鈥 than the cts by every metric but the level of comfortability/confidence I had in that car trumps my HEMI鈥檚 power/abilities
When it came time to pick a transmission for the gr86 it was a really tough decision and since we are all adults here I鈥檒l admit it, the ultimate reason I was drawn to this platform was 鈥渕issing out鈥 on hakone (that was used and marked up)that I had the pleasure to drive and loved it (was manual)
But me and her go round and round with this opinion and it鈥檚 truely never ending I have the same/similar discussion on my challenger forum

auto or manual doesn鈥檛 matter we all came to this platform/chassis for one reason or another and while I鈥檓 new here as a member, I鈥檝e been reading info-on the Brz/gr86 from Here before placing an order

this I was an extremely long rant and apologies in advance for anyone that reads to this point,

this is a an amazing community and I鈥檓 glad to be a part of it
Thank you everyone
Dont tell the rest in here but my 21 Tacoma 4x4 is a stick...my wife hates it
 

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Good for the guy you know. Golf clap.
There are zero reasons to get this car in an auto, and a million to get it in a manual.

Auto sports cars shouldn鈥檛 even exist, it鈥檚 a literal oxymoron.
You better go tell Lamborghini, McLaren, and most other supercar builders the news because they don't seem to agree with you.
 

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Now that is an interesting perspective lol. I think they sound pretty decent, albeit nothing amazing, but that's due to a good combo of intake and exhaust on my car. I also feel those sounds/noises to be a good thing regardless of commuting or having fun pounding corners.

You couldn't pay me to own an EV other than as a secondary vehicle purely for novelty or just to haul kids around or something lol
Not even for one million dollars would you drive an EV ? LOL
That鈥檚 a simple one, most of the people that purchase said cars aren鈥檛 enthusiasts. They鈥檙e just filthy rich.
Also, the manual versions of those cars command FAR more money on the used market, further proving their desirability.
Oh yes, a fool and his money !
 

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Truth is spoken here. Early Corvettes were known for their poor aerodynamics, particularly getting very light in the front at speed. The '63 to '67 models (C2) in particular were HORRIBLE in the aero department. Remember, the early cars were styled, not engineered. The Corvette started to become the true sports car it was meant to be with the C4, and finally made the breakthrough to a true thoroughbred with the C5. Before this they were just fancy looking hot rods with IRS.
I lived it IRL as the grandkids say so I know it's true. You are very knowledgeable about cars and some people try hard to sound smart. I have owned so many cars and I appreciate you speaking up.
 

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I don鈥檛 know what鈥檚 worse.

transmission threads or RTV threads?
I'm with @TRU-BOOST on this. Through the years my 2 door sports cars were my daily driver, but you cannot be a middle class home owner with a sport coupe alone. So before I bought my 'Vette I got myself a K5 Blazer. Big open 4 wheel drive with an automatic transmission. Since then I've had several trucks to go with my daily driver, all automatic transmissions. The automatic transmission is perfect for a truck not because of any "superior" attributes. But because trucks are so handy that everyone from your "significant other" to your work buddies will want to borrow it. Why not, its a truck, and everybody can drive an automatic. Its not like your going to take it drifting ( your load will shift and make a mess). Snow, mud, gravel. Everybody can drive an automatic. But for my private, nobody drives it but me sports toy...
As long as I always have at least 1 of each transmission type (manual and auto) at my disposal I am content. I do always prefer my sporty stuff to be manual and the "family vehicles" to have an auto. More often than not I want to drive manual though. Its just more fun, even when going slow.
My Tacoma 4x4 is a stick and the GR86 SE we (my wife) are getting is an automatic. She doesn't like to drive my truck because it's a stick...heh heh ! I love it when a plan comes together!
 

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Social control. When you've been a naughty boy with a low social credit score, the government-mandated phone app won't let you ride the train.

Essentially, the system they have in China. The American elite want to be more like the Chinese elite and are working on setting up the same systems of control over here.
The point is that they don't care what impact their policies have on the economy and the lives of the citizens, as long as they are doing well personally and their corrupt gravy train keeps rolling. The point is that it's a mistake to believe that public policy is made with the best interests of the public in mind. The policies are made to benefit those making and implementing them regardless of the negative consequences to the nameless, faceless public at large.
We are living in the hunger games !
 

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I love manuals, and I understand automatics. I understand the utility, convenience, and accessibility of automatic transmissions.

But...

They're kinda like having your mother pick out your cloths for the day and having her fix your lunch. Easy, convenient, and efficient. But hardly any type of self expression or independence.
Bi-transmissional. My new word of the day.
 

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If I could mash the "like" button a thousand times for this, I would. I used to live in the city. I never ever ever ever ever want to live in a city again. Using "public transportation," my commute time would go from 50 mins to two and a half hours and cost me more than the gas and minimal wear and tear on my car. No thanks!
I feel your pain. I had a job that required me to be in LA at 8 am. I drove down the mountain, got on an Amtrack train, then the red line subway, then a city bus, then a 4 block walk to the office... Total time roughly 2 plus hours each way. It was only once a week I lived the nightmare.
 

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So yesterday I played golf and there was Supra (pavement grey, AT) in the lot. I know there are some that will disagree, but I never felt more like a "little brother" than when parked next to that car. I think it is freaking sexy as all get out - particularly in yellow. And frankly, given the price, they seem kind of like a steal. Having said all of that - I wouldn't want one (at least not as my only car/DD).

First, it reminds me of a Corvette from this perspective - it is WAY too big (outside) and WAY too small (inside). I will never understand this. And then throw in huge and expensive tires, limited practicality, etc. Frankly, I think our cars are almost perfect from that end. Although I will say this - first Gen I could fit my golf clubs in the trunk as long as I took the woods in without folding down the seat.. Second Gen I need to fold down the seat - not near a deal breaker, but annoying.
I think it looks like a GR86 with a bunch of bad body panels bolted on.
 
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