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Between the Buick bumper and that vent on the dash that looks like they tried to weirdly do some retro thing (like a car made in the 70's trying to be a 'car of the future' but ends up looking like a hair dryer) I get so irrationally frustrated. The current gen's dash reminds me of an homage to the 2000gt, I really like it. I wonder if Toyota intends to do anything different, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
 

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Between the Buick bumper and that vent on the dash that looks like they tried to weirdly do some retro thing (like a car made in the 70's trying to be a 'car of the future' but ends up looking like a hair dryer) I get so irrationally frustrated. The current gen's dash reminds me of an homage to the 2000gt, I really like it. I wonder if Toyota intends to do anything different, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
I actually like the new air vents compared to the old ones. The old ones were a bit too flimsy for me. I can't see there being major changes to the GR86 from the BRZ.
 

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I can see that and I do agree the current vents do feel a bit flimsy, I know I find myself being very delicate with them.
Hmm realistically I can't see there being anything than very subtle differences. I'm excited to see what some of the aftermarket stuff will look like.
 

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Between the Buick bumper and that vent on the dash that looks like they tried to weirdly do some retro thing (like a car made in the 70's trying to be a 'car of the future' but ends up looking like a hair dryer) I get so irrationally frustrated. The current gen's dash reminds me of an homage to the 2000gt, I really like it. I wonder if Toyota intends to do anything different, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
I wish toyota will do their own thing. But its almost guaranteed that the two cars will be identical. Besides the front bumper.
 

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Between the Buick bumper and that vent on the dash that looks like they tried to weirdly do some retro thing (like a car made in the 70's trying to be a 'car of the future' but ends up looking like a hair dryer) I get so irrationally frustrated. The current gen's dash reminds me of an homage to the 2000gt, I really like it. I wonder if Toyota intends to do anything different, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
fingers crossed i hope the toyota version also improves on the interior
 

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fingers crossed i hope the toyota version also improves on the interior
when do you reckon we will see any new/update on the toyota version i know they say early spring/summer but it just feels like at this point it should have been released any idea what the hold up is lol?
 

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Maybe i missed it, but if this is the "release" version, i dont see any 86 badging at all. The past brz had 86 badging. Pointing to maybe a split between the subaru and toyota in big changes between the two? Engine difference maybe? Body? 86 retiring for celica badge?
 

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Maybe i missed it, but if this is the "release" version, i dont see any 86 badging at all. The past brz had 86 badging. Pointing to maybe a split between the subaru and toyota in big changes between the two? Engine difference maybe? Body? 86 retiring for Celica
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Body changes? Hey now, don't get me excited over here. I'm tempering my expectations because every year so much speculation about turbo/sti/interior changes etc that don't come to fruition.
 

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Body changes? Hey now, don't get me excited over here. I'm tempering my expectations because every year so much speculation about turbo/sti/interior changes etc that don't come to fruition.
Well the front bumper will be different for sure but its at least interesting toyota is silent where, usually, they promote together around the same time. Its been at least 1 month since subaru announced their version and zip from Toyota.
 

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Well we already sort of know what the front end of the 86 is going to be. They have just come out with the patent
drawings on other auto sites. Clearly the mule shown with the Mustang 1 month prior to the BRZ reveal is in fact the 86 front end. The hood contour and the headlights are the same as the BRZ. The grill and the front intakes are pretty much the same as from the mule. As for whether people like the new car versus the current car I think that is up to the individual. I hear that a lot of people who own or have owned previous BRZ/86's seem split 50/50. Personally I think the new car looks great and I like it much better than the current car. I think it looks more aggressive and exotic then the current car. yes its clear they have taken design cues from other sports car but so what. Nothing wrong with mimicking Aston Martin, Honda, Porsche, Lexus. These are designs to aspire to and in my opinion make the car look more expensive then the projected asking price. The new car design is more upscale. If you did not know it was a Subaru what would you guess it to be?
 

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One more thing. I like it way better than a Miata RF. The RF seems a little squashed because it is so much shorter.
Again my personal opinion.
 

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Body changes? Hey now, don't get me excited over here. I'm tempering my expectations because every year so much speculation about turbo/sti/interior changes etc that don't come to fruition.
Maybe i missed it, but if this is the "release" version, i dont see any 86 badging at all. The past brz had 86 badging. Pointing to maybe a split between the subaru and toyota in big changes between the two? Engine difference maybe? Body? 86 retiring for celica badge?
I hope that toyota will do something different for this car. But a different engine? that seems out of reach. It makes no sense for toyota to change engines if the boxer works great for this the of car. And changing the name from 86 to celiac does not make sense at all, not even toyota would do such a thing.
If anything was to be different, it would be the interior. We already know the front bumper will be different, the rear seems to be the same as the rear in the bra according to the mule (unfortunately), but the interior is the only thing about the 86 that we dont know about. Also, the interior was different in the 1st gen. I really think the 2nd gen of the 86 and biz will take the same approach as the 1st gen. Same car, but different front bumper and interior.
 

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Exactly. I couldn't agree more. We can always hope Seibon and other aftermarket specialists do some cool stuff down the road.
Their will always be after market options. But they always look very "after market". I miss the old styling of the celica, supra, and my favorite toyota, the SC300. Thankfully Nissan saw how simplicity can make a car look beautiful. I might even consider the new 400z as oppose to the 86 solely because of its simple, classy, and minimalistic looks.
 

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Their will always be after market options. But they always look very "after market". I miss the old styling of the celica, supra, and my favorite toyota, the SC300. Thankfully Nissan saw how simplicity can make a car look beautiful. I might even consider the new 400z as oppose to the 86 solely because of its simple, classy, and minimalistic looks.
I wish I could see beyond this car and I totally see that with the 400z too. Unfortunately after the BRZ I'm smitten and will be sticking with the next gen, but the gr86, especially if there are interior changes.
 

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This car was essentially designed by Toyota. As others have said the only "Subaru" part of the BRZ is the front grill. The interior is clearly Toyota as well. It does not appear other than the front grill and front side intakes that there is much change going on for the 86. The rear tail lights from the drive by mule video indicate longer wrap around tail lights and the perhaps typical vertical design extending down as in Camry and Supra. I don't see much change beyond that. Since the interior is clearly a Toyota design it difficult to see much change other than badging and perhaps some different surface materials. The basic interior architecture will be virtually identical.
 
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