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styling - GR86
timing - BRZ can pre-order now
tail happiness - GR86

neutrality - BRZ
 

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I like the 86 but people blow the look part out of proportion. The BRZ looks like a front engine Japanese Porsche now, which in my opinion looks good. (Boxer engine, great handling, traditional sports car looks)
 

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If Subaru makes the PP available out of the gate that would easily sway me to the BRZ.

Now if Toyota brought over the auto-rev-matching they have on the MT Corolla to the GR86....
 

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If Subaru makes the PP available out of the gate that would easily sway me to the BRZ.

Now if Toyota brought over the auto-rev-matching they have on the MT Corolla to the GR86....
I confirmed with my dealer that PP was a factory installed option, and since it hasn't been available for anyone who has placed an order, it likely won't be available out of the gate. I'm already planning a brembo swap.
 

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I confirmed with my dealer that PP was a factory installed option, and since it hasn't been available for anyone who has placed an order, it likely won't be available out of the gate. I'm already planning a brembo swap.
I didn't see any press release with OEM Brembo brake on either GR86 or BRZ so far.
 

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Well if you were sitting in either car with it not in motion the only way to tell which is which is by the logo. Everything else inside is virtually identical. Of course perhaps when the BRZ is reviewed in a couple of weeks maybe there are small changes. The engines sound identical as well. So then it gets down to 2 items. 1) how they handle in a corner when driven in anger and which nose do you like better. I of course would hope that Subaru in its finalization of the BRZ does something more than the nose to distinguish it from the BRZ. I hope it is not making it a softer sportscar that's not as engaging to drive.
 

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I'm definitely going for the 86. I just can't get over how the BRZ's bumper looks like the 😂 emoji. Plus, it sounds like I'd prefer the driving dynamics of the 86 more than the BRZ.
 

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Waiting on the BRZ reviews.

And honestly waiting on back to backs after that too.
I ended up watching the Japanese comparison of the two. While the subtitles will always be a little off, the BRZ was more stable and neutral while turning while the 86 was more prone to slide
 

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Well I think it's simply 2 different philosophies in regard to vehicle handling. The BRZ will slide but it appears you have to provoke it more. Its natural tendency perhaps is for it not to want to slide. However, last year during the press drives with Scott Speed the BRZ was in fact hanging its tail out. Therefore, even with the changes Toyota has done with the front suspension perhaps there is not that much of a handling difference then you think. However, perhaps those BRZ's were not in final spec and may have been tuned to 86 specifications without anyone knowing it. Who knows. I still would assume that the handling difference is not night and day as Toyota would have you believe. Further, as I mentioned before the fastest way around a track is NOT sticking the tail out.
 

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I dont mind when companies work together to make something great. At the same time I have something inside that just wont allow me to buy a vehicle that doesnt use an engine made by its brand. So, being a subaru engine... it had to be a subaru BRZ for me. Same goes with older cars too. It makes my skin crawl when I see guys put LS engines into an old foxbody mustang, or something like that. Now if you want to put a coyote 5.0 in it thats fine. At least thats the right brand. But I am weird like that.
 

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as far as I understand, the suspension differences are bolt ons, the user can change and tune to their liking. I've read there's slight differences in steering feel/response and engine tuning, aside from that the only difference are cosmetics.
 

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It's an easy choice for me as I like the front end on the GR more than BRZ, plus the automotive company I work for owns Toyota dealers but not Subaru so it's cheaper to get the GR on the service and parts side as well.
 

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I'm going to order the GR86 front bumper, rear spoiler and get them sprayed WRBlue pearl :)

Then swap out the BRZ logos and put on those toyobaru ones I have seen people make.

Job done, proper toyobaru.
or just buy a GR86 lol.
 
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