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GR86 vs BRZ vs GTI vs Veloster N in Car and Driver

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VAGdriver

Discussion Starter · Nov 24, 2021

The twins tie for first and get 25/25 in fun to drive, which is really all I care about.
Excuse crappy pics. Should be online in a week or so.

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knc

· #2 · Nov 24, 2021

The impressive thing is one can spend almost $40K on a GTI...

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Kona61

· #3 · Nov 24, 2021

knc said:
The impressive thing is one can spend almost $40K on a GTI...

That’s as much as a MK7 Golf R cost (or similar) and there is nothing I like more about the MK8 than I did the MK7. C&D doesn’t put much emphasis on the infotainment/UI, but that alone would stop me from buying one.

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pngrant54

· #4 · Nov 25, 2021

If I wanted a FWD car with a degree of comfort along with very good performance and handling the Golf would be it for me. True the infotainment system would annoy. However, I would adapt to it in the long run. I'm not a fan of the Veloster. The cheap interior plastics(way below the twins) and the hard ride would turn me off. Further, I've never loved the styling of it. Focusing strictly on hot hatches I think the Golf is the cleanest design. I've never warmed up to the current Civic Type R. I think the new one looks a whole lot better. I really like the styling of my 500 Abarth as well. But I'm done with hot hatches. I'm strictly RWD.
I've put a deposit down for a BRZ but will see if I can actually buy it in March of 22. if it does not come to pass for some reason, I'm going to look at a used Boxster.

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Hooster

· #5 · Nov 26, 2021

Thanks so much for sharing this. The 0-100 mph time is simply astonishing for a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder 2.4 liter car. 13.6 seconds.
The 1997 Honda NSX 3.2 liter does the same in 16.1 seconds.

Honda NSX 3.2 0-60, quarter mile, acceleration times - AccelerationTimes.com

Honda NSX 3.2 0-60 mph, quarter mile (1/4 mile), top speed, 0-100 kph and 44 other acceleration times

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BRZLS7

· #6 · Nov 27, 2021

Awesome info! Can I see the final scoring of these cars? Especially the difference between GR86 and BRZ.

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Kona61

· #7 · Nov 27, 2021

BRZLS7 said:
Awesome info! Can I see the final scoring of these cars? Especially the difference between GR86 and BRZ.

The BRZ and 86 were scored the same. The Golf was 2 points behind but got close by virtue of practicality.

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Jman01

· #8 · Nov 28, 2021

pngrant54 said:
If I wanted a FWD car with a degree of comfort along with very good performance and handling the Golf would be it for me. True the infotainment system would annoy. However, I would adapt to it in the long run. I'm not a fan of the Veloster. The cheap interior plastics(way below the twins) and the hard ride would turn me off. Further, I've never loved the styling of it. Focusing strictly on hot hatches I think the Golf is the cleanest design. I've never warmed up to the current Civic Type R. I think the new one looks a whole lot better. I really like the styling of my 500 Abarth as well. But I'm done with hot hatches. I'm strictly RWD.
I've put a deposit down for a BRZ but will see if I can actually buy it in March of 22. if it does not come to pass for some reason, I'm going to look at a used Boxster.

I’m doing the opposite, going from a 2008 Boxster rs60 spyder to the brz. I wish I could keep the Boxster but have to sell it for financial reasons and I want a newer car, but it is amazing still. The other day I was driving in the canyons and I left a new bmw m2 in the dust when the road got curvy, only when it straightened out could he catch up! My car is still for sale if you are interested

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pngrant54

· #9 · Nov 28, 2021

Your not doing the opposite at all. Why because you are sticking with a RWD low slung sportscar. If you owned a Golf R or a Civic Type R or an AMG hatchback then yes you are clearly switching from FWD based hatch to a Coupe RWD or RWD convertble. What you are doing is going from a more expensive higher maintenance RWD performance vehicle to a less expensive, lower maintenance performance vehicle. The BRZ might not be quite as quick in a strait line. It might not have quite the ultimate cornering power. However it is giving you 99.5% of what you have had but in a much cheaper package to buy and maintain.

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