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Argument for thicker oils

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Savage Geese has a video on YT about the perils of direct injection.
He says the problems that arise are deposits building up on the backside of intake valves, in part due to evaporated motor oil fumes and blowby products, not being washed off by port injection. At about 15:50 in the video he starts discussing why its not good to run the thin oils due to their high evaporation rate. He suggests that 0w-16,0w20, 0w-30 are best replaced by 5w-xx oils because they generally are less evaporative.
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I had to add a catch can on my Spider's 1.4L turbo because the oil-air separator is poorly designed and ends up filling up with oil to the point it just bypasses oil to the intake. Shortly after buying the car, I opened the airbox to check the filter and found it soaked in oil where it had run down from the intake tube and dripped onto the top of the air filter. The bottom and sides of the intake were coated in oil. I was really concerned about the compressor and intercooler getting oil in them not to mention the intake valves (although fortunately, the 1.4L has port injection). After installing the catch can, absolutely no oil made it to the intake. The funny thing is, there's never any oil accumulated in the catch can, just a little bit of brown film / discoloration. It's almost like the addition of all the extra hose length condenses the oil mist and vapor and drains it back to the oil-air separator, while the actual bypass gases continue on to the intake and get re-combusted.

The point of this story is to say that a catch can is one of those things that you add if you are actually having a problem with liquid oil getting into or condensing in the intake. If not, then I don't think a catch can will provide much benefit. I don't think it would hurt anything though if you just want peace of mind.
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Haha i finally watched the video. The primary cause for oil in the intake is mist from oil flinging around and blow-by. It's not oil evaporation (well maybe a miniscule percentage is).
Having said that, NOACK is one of a handful of good indicators of a good quality oil. Sadly, most manufacturers don't advertise it.
Hmm! The Noack test, developed by Kurt Noack. And here I am thinking Project Farm invented it. :LOL:
Interesting chart. xW-20 not recommended above 75° F?
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I was listening to the MotorWeek podcast and they said the Ford F-150 Raptor R takes over 11 quarts of 5W-50.
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I was listening to the MotorWeek podcast and they said the Ford F-150 Raptor R takes over 11 quarts of 5W-50.
F-150 Raptor R Technical Specifications
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Took my BRZ in for its first of the 4 free oil change at dealership. Told Srv Manager I would prefer 5/30 put back in it if possible and he replied. Don’t blame ya…No problem. And even showed on paperwork Valvoline 5w/30 Full Synthetic. Owners Request. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Nice! You're not only The Wizard of Oz, you're The Dealer Whisperer! :D
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