Anyone resolve rattling Billetworkz short shifter?
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Same, I got replacement washer and retaining clip last week but it still rattles..I have the updated shifter and the thicker washer and new c-clip that go under the car.
Still a ton of rattle when WOT above 5k.
shifter feels great but sounds like crap.
I bought replacement washers and retaining clip, but never got to installing it.
Not good hearing it didn't work for you guys either.
Whenever my shifter begins to rattle, I let off throttle a little and then get back on it, which seems to help.
Kind of sucks when your doing a WOT pull though.
Have any of you guys returned back to stock shifter and still see if it rattles (w/ stock shifter)?
I'm thinking of giving this a try, cause the rattle really kills the driving experience.
Not good hearing it didn't work for you guys either.
Whenever my shifter begins to rattle, I let off throttle a little and then get back on it, which seems to help.
Kind of sucks when your doing a WOT pull though.
Have any of you guys returned back to stock shifter and still see if it rattles (w/ stock shifter)?
I'm thinking of giving this a try, cause the rattle really kills the driving experience.
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I have thought about it, I'm going to give the BW some more time. Maybe it will "break in" and get quiet.
The owner of BW did post in a FB group that they are looking for more solutions to stop the rattle.
Dang, I'm sorry y'all are still rattling! Once I switched to the stock washers, I haven't had any rattle in my short shifter. 😕😕
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Did you get the install kit or use the OEM?
Honestly all I changed out from what it came with was the top plate. Otherwise, I installed it how it came out of the box. I'm not easy on the car either, I drive it pretty hard and do track it once a month. After 1 week it's been good for far.
Hey, all. I too suffer from this mysterious shifter rattle. I have done some extensive testing with the linkage by swapping out parts from the stock shifter vs the Billetworks parts kit. No matter what combination of parts I use (ex, OEM bushings with BW retainers) no noticeable difference could be heard. In fact not even a tone change could be distinguished which tells me I never even made an impact to the problem.
I did record some tolerance variances between the OEM linkage parts and the BW parts. I took some measurements of all the stock hardware and compared it to the Billetworkz hardware too see if there were any discrepancies in tolerances with the bushing flanges, snap ring thickness etc in order to see if gapping was an issue. Turns out there are thinner materials being used in the billet works parts kit which creates some space for play in the linkage. This could lead to rattling. To eliminate this issue I reinstalled the OEM bushings which create a tighter seal to the linkage arm vs the newer designed BW dual O ring bushing and then installed a neoprene washer in between the gear select rod and the shifter to create a rubberized dampener between these two metal on metal contact points. This Washer is also slightly thicker then OEM which created the need to press firmly on the C clip in order to compress the assemble and click into its retaining slot. In theory this should eliminate all gaps and play in the system as well as provide a buffer for dampening rattle. Right? Nope. Not even a tone change. Same rattle, same rpms. For me that starts at 2700 so I pretty much have to listen to this butt hole all the time. All this testing leads me to believe the rattle is not in the linkage at all but must be in the lockout assembly. I will begin testing this theory when the feelings of defeat leave my body and I have the energy to take apart my console for the umpteenth time.
I have been working in contact with Austin, the owner at Billetworks and they are aware of the issue and working on it diligently. Currently they are working on a new “call in gen 3” bushing that more closely resembles the OEM bushing that has a swelled section in the middle to help with fitment. Unfortunately I am not so sure this will solve the issue as it seems my testing has now moved me away from the linkage and to the lockout assembly.
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I did record some tolerance variances between the OEM linkage parts and the BW parts. I took some measurements of all the stock hardware and compared it to the Billetworkz hardware too see if there were any discrepancies in tolerances with the bushing flanges, snap ring thickness etc in order to see if gapping was an issue. Turns out there are thinner materials being used in the billet works parts kit which creates some space for play in the linkage. This could lead to rattling. To eliminate this issue I reinstalled the OEM bushings which create a tighter seal to the linkage arm vs the newer designed BW dual O ring bushing and then installed a neoprene washer in between the gear select rod and the shifter to create a rubberized dampener between these two metal on metal contact points. This Washer is also slightly thicker then OEM which created the need to press firmly on the C clip in order to compress the assemble and click into its retaining slot. In theory this should eliminate all gaps and play in the system as well as provide a buffer for dampening rattle. Right? Nope. Not even a tone change. Same rattle, same rpms. For me that starts at 2700 so I pretty much have to listen to this butt hole all the time. All this testing leads me to believe the rattle is not in the linkage at all but must be in the lockout assembly. I will begin testing this theory when the feelings of defeat leave my body and I have the energy to take apart my console for the umpteenth time.
I have been working in contact with Austin, the owner at Billetworks and they are aware of the issue and working on it diligently. Currently they are working on a new “call in gen 3” bushing that more closely resembles the OEM bushing that has a swelled section in the middle to help with fitment. Unfortunately I am not so sure this will solve the issue as it seems my testing has now moved me away from the linkage and to the lockout assembly.
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Can you please keep this thread updated with any improvements or responses from Austin?
I emailed him and like others have reported after a couple exchanges, he simply stopped replying.
He even flat our said "I'm not exactly sure why yours is rattling".
I was also thinking of doing a plastic/ neoprene washer but looks like you thought of that.
Listening to this thing rattle for 45 minutes on my commute is great, money well spent!
I'm very close to removing the shifter and going back to stock.
When is the rattling happening? I have one installed and i've been luck with no rattle. Just trying to get an idea. I have a buddy that has one as well that I tracks as well and he hasn't noticed it either.Can you please keep this thread updated with any improvements or responses from Austin?
I emailed him and like others have reported after a couple exchanges, he simply stopped replying.
He even flat our said "I'm not exactly sure why yours is rattling".
I was also thinking of doing a plastic/ neoprene washer but looks like you thought of that.
Listening to this thing rattle for 45 minutes on my commute is great, money well spent!
I'm very close to removing the shifter and going back to stock.
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Can you please keep this thread updated with any improvements or responses from Austin?
I emailed him and like others have reported after a couple exchanges, he simply stopped replying.
He even flat our said "I'm not exactly sure why yours is rattling".
I was also thinking of doing a plastic/ neoprene washer but looks like you thought of that.
Listening to this thing rattle for 45 minutes on my commute is great, money well spent!
I'm very close to removing the shifter and going back to stock.
Various RPMs going through the gears, the worst is the constant rattle in 6th gear cruising on the highway.
The non-stop, 6th gear rattle is by the far the worst.
Yea it's kinda gradual while getting up to speed then once you hit cruising speed, it just constantly rattles and it's tough. Luckily, all I did was switch the OEM bushings with the BW ones and I haven't had rattling since.
The shifter I got came with bushings that had a "ridge" in the center. I didn't swap them out for the stock ones like I saw in the video I watched. I was a bitch doing it though because it was a tight fit and I did it all from the top not from underneath like the video showed.
Yea that ridge is just the o ring they use. I think your one of the few people who haven't had an issue with BW stock set up with 1 o ring. Meh don't worry because I did it from the top too lol
For sure I will. I’m in the same boat with going to stock but I can’t stand not figuring this out!Can you please keep this thread updated with any improvements or responses from Austin?
I emailed him and like others have reported after a couple exchanges, he simply stopped replying.
He even flat our said "I'm not exactly sure why yours is rattling".
I was also thinking of doing a plastic/ neoprene washer but looks like you thought of that.
Listening to this thing rattle for 45 minutes on my commute is great, money well spent!
I'm very close to removing the shifter and going back to stock.
Same. Mine starts low, around 2700, while accelerating or maintaining constant throttle so 6th gear cruising is obnoxious.
I wanted to upload a video of this rattle for you all so we could compare the sound and scenario in order to identify if we’re all experiencing the same situation. Let me know if this is the sound you all are hearing. I’m new to forums so I’ve uploaded the video to my Mt biking YouTube channel. Hopefully this link works for you. Please turn you volume up as it’s a little quiet. Thanks.
Billetworks Shifter rattle
Billetworks Shifter rattle
No, the actual plastic bushing the rod goes through had a ridge on them. The stock ones are smooth and that's why I decided to not swap them like the video showed. I figured the ridge would hold better.
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Thats what mine sounds like. 👆👆👆
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