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A bit more about the new Toyota Celica

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As said in other threads, the evidence mounting for the twins being axed in the next 2-3 years is pretty high at this point unless you're one of the people that prefers to ignore the rumors (Best Car) that have accurately predicted the A90 Supra, GR86, GRY, and GRC lol. The rumors always start off with just the nameplate and a bunch of nonsense early on, but typically about 2 years before the car releases to the public they have everything (drivetrain specs, interior and exterior renders that are 90% match etc).
 
They can be had within 2-4 months last I checked (for msrp depending on dealer). My issues with the Corolla are that you sit really high up inside the thing, and the interior is very mediocre with the twins feeling premium in comparison.
 
That's a classic example of not being able to read between the lines IMO, but I actually work in the industry and with folks inside Toyota so I don't expect people to understand why the rumors are so seemingly chaotic.

The G16-GTS powered 86 rumor is based in part on Toyota actually testing that powerplant in the GR86 (there's literally 3 of those cars driving right now for Rookie Racing). That means some contingent within Toyota is either testing for that reality (engine change in the 2nd gen which is highly unlikely IMO) or for the 3rd gen car which is far more likely. Will it be next year? Who knows. But employees of both Toyota and/or suppliers feed them this information (at times on purpose), which means it is actively being discussed within the company. They are rumors partially because out of option A, B, and C, usually only one makes it to production. Expecting laser like accuracy at any point before the car is production ready is unrealistic...

Everyone thought they were completely full of it when each of those cars I listed were initially previewed, but by the time it was year or two before production they had the details down. But you only get to know how accurate they are after the car comes out, and then no one goes back and goes wow they were actually pretty spot on maybe I should pay attention to this more.

This (LC-F/engine) was a "stupid rumor with no merit" too and then boom everyone found out they actually made it and that it's racing in the LC500 race car (tons of examples of this). Unfortunately, despite creating the engine, the car itself never saw production: