2022 Toyota GR86 First Impressions Review
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Someone in the comments provided some translations for parts of the video. It's really helpful if you're watching and don't understand Japanese.
3:15 Beautiful 86 drift
8:16 86 has a more excited initial throttle response whereas BRZ has a more linear throttle response
8:35 BRZ has deeper roll in the back? 9:10 BRZ has a very stable cornering feel, no sense of insecurity at all
12:14 86 feels like a sharpened version of the early years zenki 86
14:10 86 has a very excitable feeling
14:43 BRZ has a stable feeling, but within that stability you can feel that it is FR
16:45 BRZ despite being FR has the sense of security of an AWD car
17:37 It has started to rain but the stability and security is still very high
17:55 BRZ seems to have inherited Subaru’s AWD philosophy
18:45 When BRZ is made to slide it is very controllable
19:20 BRZ characteristics is not only one of composure, it also accepts drifting
20:30 In 86 you can feel the GR characteristics from the Yaris and Supra
22:15 In the 86 you can sense the flavour of the Yaris and Supra. In contrast, in the BRZ you can sense the flavour of the Impreza and Levorg
22:50 You can really feel the added distinct flavours from each company between the BRZ and 86 with this generation
23:43 You get a grand touring sense from the BRZ
24:15 When you wring it out it is fun as a FR car, but when you’re not the Subaru DNA is great
24:40 In 3rd gear, the 86’s rear still drifts, but in the BRZ the rear stays planted in 3rd.
24:45 In 2nd gear you can get the BRZ to drift but the rear stability is distinct
3:15 Beautiful 86 drift
8:16 86 has a more excited initial throttle response whereas BRZ has a more linear throttle response
8:35 BRZ has deeper roll in the back? 9:10 BRZ has a very stable cornering feel, no sense of insecurity at all
12:14 86 feels like a sharpened version of the early years zenki 86
14:10 86 has a very excitable feeling
14:43 BRZ has a stable feeling, but within that stability you can feel that it is FR
16:45 BRZ despite being FR has the sense of security of an AWD car
17:37 It has started to rain but the stability and security is still very high
17:55 BRZ seems to have inherited Subaru’s AWD philosophy
18:45 When BRZ is made to slide it is very controllable
19:20 BRZ characteristics is not only one of composure, it also accepts drifting
20:30 In 86 you can feel the GR characteristics from the Yaris and Supra
22:15 In the 86 you can sense the flavour of the Yaris and Supra. In contrast, in the BRZ you can sense the flavour of the Impreza and Levorg
22:50 You can really feel the added distinct flavours from each company between the BRZ and 86 with this generation
23:43 You get a grand touring sense from the BRZ
24:15 When you wring it out it is fun as a FR car, but when you’re not the Subaru DNA is great
24:40 In 3rd gear, the 86’s rear still drifts, but in the BRZ the rear stays planted in 3rd.
24:45 In 2nd gear you can get the BRZ to drift but the rear stability is distinct
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This is what one publication was able to gather from translating it:
"They report, first and foremost, that the new cars feel quite different from the last generation. And that should hardly come as a surprise since both make more power. The new BRZ is quoted as making 228 hp in the US, but both can make up to 232 hp depending on their market. That’s up from 205 hp for the last generation.
As a result, both get to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds, which is 1.1 seconds faster than the outgoing models. More than that, though, the drivers also report that the cars are more refined. Neither has lost its sports car edge, but they seem to be a little quieter at idle.
The good news for fans of the RWD dynamics is that little of their sense of fun seems to have been lost in the generational transition. Both cars handle well thanks to their low center of gravity and low weight.
Although both hosts appreciate the BRZ, they seem to have a slight preference for the GR 86. The Toyota is a little more tail happy, whereas the BRZ seems to have a more neutral character.
As we’ve covered, it’s clear that both cars are based on the same basic stuff, but according to Lovecars, it’s still impressive how much of a difference tuning can make."
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"They report, first and foremost, that the new cars feel quite different from the last generation. And that should hardly come as a surprise since both make more power. The new BRZ is quoted as making 228 hp in the US, but both can make up to 232 hp depending on their market. That’s up from 205 hp for the last generation.
As a result, both get to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds, which is 1.1 seconds faster than the outgoing models. More than that, though, the drivers also report that the cars are more refined. Neither has lost its sports car edge, but they seem to be a little quieter at idle.
The good news for fans of the RWD dynamics is that little of their sense of fun seems to have been lost in the generational transition. Both cars handle well thanks to their low center of gravity and low weight.
Although both hosts appreciate the BRZ, they seem to have a slight preference for the GR 86. The Toyota is a little more tail happy, whereas the BRZ seems to have a more neutral character.
As we’ve covered, it’s clear that both cars are based on the same basic stuff, but according to Lovecars, it’s still impressive how much of a difference tuning can make."
Watch The 2022 Toyota GR 86 And Subaru BRZ Twins Get Driven Back To Back | Carscoops
Are they the same car with different badges or is there a little more to the story than meets the eye?
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I'm all for the new cars feeling a little more refined. Also seems fitting that the GR86 is the more tail happy car of the two.This is what one publication was able to gather from translating it:
"They report, first and foremost, that the new cars feel quite different from the last generation. And that should hardly come as a surprise since both make more power. The new BRZ is quoted as making 228 hp in the US, but both can make up to 232 hp depending on their market. That’s up from 205 hp for the last generation.
As a result, both get to 60 mph in just 6.3 seconds, which is 1.1 seconds faster than the outgoing models. More than that, though, the drivers also report that the cars are more refined. Neither has lost its sports car edge, but they seem to be a little quieter at idle.
The good news for fans of the RWD dynamics is that little of their sense of fun seems to have been lost in the generational transition. Both cars handle well thanks to their low center of gravity and low weight.
Although both hosts appreciate the BRZ, they seem to have a slight preference for the GR 86. The Toyota is a little more tail happy, whereas the BRZ seems to have a more neutral character.
As we’ve covered, it’s clear that both cars are based on the same basic stuff, but according to Lovecars, it’s still impressive how much of a difference tuning can make."
Watch The 2022 Toyota GR 86 And Subaru BRZ Twins Get Driven Back To Back | Carscoops
Are they the same car with different badges or is there a little more to the story than meets the eye?
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It sure is and goes to show how much Toyota engineers respect what an 86 should be. This has me wondering what other driving characteristics it still has from the outgoing model and previous gens, and anything new/improved.
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It was probably turned off in the GR86, it's electronic now and you can turn it on/off.
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