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now that the 2nd generation has been released, does anyone know if the toyota version will have a regular speedometer instead of the digital one like in the new BRZ?

also, will the toyota one have the option to choose the key ignition, instead of the push start button? the push start button is a huge no go for me. anything electronic will break down.. gotta keep that shit simple..
 

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No idea yet. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

I feel like it'll be the same, but that's just me.

And have you had bad experience with push button ignitions before? Never had an issue here. I loved it on my old S2000.
 

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No idea yet. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

I feel like it'll be the same, but that's just me.

And have you had bad experience with push button ignitions before? Never had an issue here. I loved it on my old S2000.
the same as the previous gen, or the new gen?

i never used push start button, but i know that they arent as reliable as the good ol' standard key ignition. anything electrical will break. the more useless bells and whistle they use, the more problems... gotta keep that shit simple. if it works, then dont change it.

just like german cars. so many useless things they keep adding every year and they always have a check engine light.

hopefully they will make the key ignition standard and make the push start optional. if not, then that is a huge no go for me.

and this is coming from a millennial ,lol.
 

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Well Subaru was responsible for the chassis and engine and I think Toyota was responsible for the exterior and interior design. Therefore I think that the push button is hear to stay along with the digital speedo. I can tell the reason for the push button. If you remember GM had a huge law suit for its ignition switches on some of its models. They were designed in such a way that the tumbler would jam if a person had too many keys on their key ring causing (I believe) the car to either turn off or go into a neutral mode resulting in loss of steering and braking control. There were a number of fatal accidents. From that law suit most major car manufactures adopted the push button transmission. The digital speedo is probably cheaper to make then a regular old fashion one.
 

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I predict an analog speedo because the BRZ was always positioned as the premium option among the two.
 

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I like the new BRZ, but I feel something is off with the front grill design.
Hoping Toyota version has a better front end design
 

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Well it seems clear to me that this is a "Toyota" design. Not a "Subaru" design. The only "Subaru" design elements that I can see on this car is in fact the front grill and maybe the tail lights. Now a lot of people have compared them to the Honda NSX tail lights. While I agree with this I also see a similar tail light design from the Subaru CrossTrek. The CrossTrek lights are larger but similar in shape. Other than these 2 elements there does not seem to be any other Subaru elements in this design. The greenhouse shape is from the current BRZ/86 with the exception of the kink at the back of the C pillar window. I think based on the grill from the mule and how it changed to production is a clear indication that the 86 is going to have different front and rear ends from the BRZ. It is, I believe, an easy thing to do. That being said I don't have a real problem with the BRZ grill design. I think it works on the car. I am looking forward to see what the Toyota designers do with the 86,
 
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