[DQ Tiny]

I’m still puzzled by the aluminium piece vs the steel piece of the front suspension. From what I understand the steel piece from the 86 is firmer than the aluminium piece but I’d be interested in the weight saving and the reasons behind this difference. Anybody have any idea?

 

[Blighty]

I’m still puzzled by the aluminium piece vs the steel piece of the front suspension. From what I understand the steel piece from the 86 is firmer than the aluminium piece but I’d be interested in the weight saving and the reasons behind this difference. Anybody have any idea?

Its quite a lot, 3kg per knuckle. So 6kg all up, plus its unsprung weight - which you want to minimise as much as possible really.

Its a head scratcher.

 

[Jeonsa]

Its quite a lot, 3kg per knuckle. So 6kg all up, plus its unsprung weight - which you want to minimise as much as possible really.

Its a head scratcher.

This is why I was a little taken back at first when they were describing the differences.

 

[Blighty]

I've included the video below as well.

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[Blighty]

This is why I was a little taken back at first when they were describing the differences.

I tell you what though, even though everything is pointing me towards the BRZ - I just LOVE the GR branding and love that start up animation.

Hahah. I really wish Subaru had of more uniquely named its model this year, like just call it the BRZ S, or something.

I never thought I would be a sucker for branding but there you go.

 

[Jeonsa]

I tell you what though, even though everything is pointing me towards the BRZ - I just LOVE the GR branding and love that start up animation.

Hahah. I really wish Subaru had of more uniquely named its model this year, like just call it the BRZ S, or something.

I never thought I would be a sucker for branding but there you go.

No I get it. Leading up to these first impression videos, Gazoo Racing was releasing videos about the 86's history that made me pretty excited.
I wouldn't even be upset if you do end up going the BRZ route just because the fine details it has in parts and it kind of makes its own way as far as its place in the automotive world (Doesn't really need to rely on heritage as much).

 

[DQ Tiny]

Its quite a lot, 3kg per knuckle. So 6kg all up, plus its unsprung weight - which you want to minimise as much as possible really.

Its a head scratcher.

Exactly!

 

[Administrator]

I tell you what though, even though everything is pointing me towards the BRZ - I just LOVE the GR branding and love that start up animation.

Hahah. I really wish Subaru had of more uniquely named its model this year, like just call it the BRZ S, or something.

I never thought I would be a sucker for branding but there you go.

Done. Thanks for calling it out.
Spammers gonna spam...

 

[DQ Tiny]

Its quite a lot, 3kg per knuckle. So 6kg all up, plus its unsprung weight - which you want to minimise as much as possible really.

Its a head scratcher.

What do you think, will the Subaru piece fit on the GR? I suppose other pieces connecting to it must be changed then as well. Unsprung weight on the front corner of the car is definitely something I would like to get rid of.

 

[Jeonsa]

What do you think, will the Subaru piece fit on the GR? I suppose other pieces connecting to it must be changed then as well. Unsprung weight on the front corner of the car is definitely something I would like to get rid of.

It should after minor adjustments but at that point why not just buy a BRZ? Lol

 

[DQ Tiny]

It should after minor adjustments but at that point why not just buy a BRZ? Lol

Yeah rub it in…the BRZ is not coming to Europe…col

 

[Jeonsa]

Yeah rub it in…the BRZ is not coming to Europe…col

Dang that sucks, I forgot they decided on the GR86 as the global model. At least you still get to have fun with one of the twins!

 

[Blighty]

The gr86 might go down as a famously old school car though, so there is that.

I also feel that its sounds slightly better and more genuine than the BRZ. Hard to tell but I think it is a little higher pitched, which I thought was just between it and the last gen, but it seems higher pitched between this gens brz.

 

[Jeonsa]

The gr86 might go down as a famously old school car though, so there is that.

I also feel that its sounds slightly better and more genuine than the BRZ. Hard to tell but I think it is a little higher pitched, which I thought was just between it and the last gen, but it seems higher pitched between this gens brz.

At the end of the day the 86 will outsell the BRZ like the first gen, but the BRZ will hold its value better which is also very similar to the first gen.

Sound wise I’d have to hear in person for sure because the previous 86/BRZ didn’t have a great sounding engine. (Until aftermarket pipes were installed)

 

[dng]

I'm curious -- why does the BRZ hold better value than the FR-S or 86? just pure scarcity? or was there a fundamental unique value prop?

 

[Jeonsa]

I'm curious -- why does the BRZ hold better value than the FR-S or 86? just pure scarcity? or was there a fundamental unique value prop?

There were more 86s bought to be straight forward. More 86s/FRS were on lots, at the time it was Toyota’s only sports car (BRZ had the WRX around the same price on lots) stuff like that. On the old forums a big benefit was also the Subie techs that worked on the BRZs compared to Toyota that had some setbacks at first (working out the whole partnership) which could be a factor or just personal preference on the used market. Being that the new BRZ is only limited to a few markets and everyone wanting a 86 because of its looks this time around, it might be more prevalent.

 

[Blighty]

I'm curious -- why does the BRZ hold better value than the FR-S or 86? just pure scarcity? or was there a fundamental unique value prop?

Yeah the BRZ is much rarer. I think I recall hearing the figures were around 10 FRS/86 sold for every 1 BRZ. Thought that is probably Australian numbers.

Even though they are equally good cars, people are always a little inclined to preference something that fewer other people have.

Probably not a big deal at the end of the day, I think perhaps this time around with the more differentiation between how the cars behave might be more of a deciding factor in its desirability.

 

[SystematicGiraffe]

This video from LOVECARS!TV! Shows all the differences between the cars. I'd love to get proper English subs for this one.

 

[Jeonsa]

This video from LOVECARS!TV! Shows all the differences between the cars. I'd love to get proper English subs for this one.

Been a bunch of videos showing the differences. We’re about to get the other press reviews very soon from the States, Europe etc.