Pretty sure they just run by osmosis.
2022 GR86 catastrophic engine failure at 5k miles, Toyota refusing to cover under warranty
I purchased a new Toyota GR86 in June of 2022, manual transmission, premium package, in white. I bought the extended warranty and the maintenance plan. I Loved it. I paid over the MSRP to get it.
On January 1st (less than six months old), the car with 5,010 miles spun a bearing resulting in a catastrophic engine failure. The vehicle had yet to have its first 7,500-mile service. No warning lights or indicators beforehand and the car was never tracked. It was flatbed towed to the nearest Toyota dealer (Toyota of Marin). The initial reports from the dealer, once they removed the oil pan and inspected it, was RIPG (or “rest in place gasket”), also known as RTV silicon, found in the oil pick up. The engine had metal particles in the oil pan, highlighting significant damage to the entire engine.
Fast forward six weeks later, after dozens of calls with the dealer and Toyota, they refuse to cover the failure under warranty. They also refuse to share the report from the Toyota Factory Service Specialist who inspected the car.
They are quoting me $27,500 out-of-pocket to replace the motor.
If you have a 2022 Toyota GR86, beware.
Any advice? I tried the Toyota Brand Engagement Center, but no luck.
On January 1st (less than six months old), the car with 5,010 miles spun a bearing resulting in a catastrophic engine failure. The vehicle had yet to have its first 7,500-mile service. No warning lights or indicators beforehand and the car was never tracked. It was flatbed towed to the nearest Toyota dealer (Toyota of Marin). The initial reports from the dealer, once they removed the oil pan and inspected it, was RIPG (or “rest in place gasket”), also known as RTV silicon, found in the oil pick up. The engine had metal particles in the oil pan, highlighting significant damage to the entire engine.
Fast forward six weeks later, after dozens of calls with the dealer and Toyota, they refuse to cover the failure under warranty. They also refuse to share the report from the Toyota Factory Service Specialist who inspected the car.
They are quoting me $27,500 out-of-pocket to replace the motor.
If you have a 2022 Toyota GR86, beware.
Any advice? I tried the Toyota Brand Engagement Center, but no luck.
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Actually, she will have to have her boyfriend remove the key, get a copy made, and reweld it for her.
She will chastity belt her you know what and the key will be at the jewelry store in the cash register. Don't mess with women Lol
Good question on cost - saw a 2jz in a Frs this morningthere is a guy who swapped a 2jz into his gr86. anyone know how much that setup cost?
not saying for me.. but might be cheaper
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You’re obviously not the type to notice everyone you come in contact with is a brain dead idiot that literally does nothing right, especially at work. All I do is fix stupid these days. On the phone every day trying to fix something stupid, like today 1.5 hours with Simplisafe because the update they make people do screws every single customer’s system up. Idiots. It’s everywhere and if you stop and just say I’m going to trust people, I hope you’ve bought your grave space and have good life insurance if you have descendants because you’re trusting fools.Countless variables under all types of driving conditions. Someone find the engineering team that designed the pickup and have a 3 hour podcast with them.
I'll trust that they thought of all the conditions. My life is less stressful that way.
Bad day, huh? Must suck to be surrounded by idiots. I work with some fairly competent people.You’re obviously not the type to notice everyone you come in contact with is a brain dead idiot that literally does nothing right, especially at work. All I do is fix stupid these days. On the phone every day trying to fix something stupid, like today 1.5 hours with Simplisafe because the update they make people do screws every single customer’s system up. Idiots. It’s everywhere and if you stop and just say I’m going to trust people, I hope you’ve bought your grave space and have good life insurance if you have descendants because you’re trusting fools.
There are just as many idiots as there ever were, but I wont disagree that the times generally dictate less Q/A. That said, automotive engineering is basically the same thing it's been for years and years and years. In other words, things can go wrong, particularly in regards to cost-cutting, but I'd still trust the engineers in terms of what the design goal was.
Typically, when something doesn't hold up it's because someone is doing something beyond the original design limitations, issues with assembly, or supplier QA. And often times the misuse piece I mentioned has to do with how said product was marketed (like saying something is track ready lol).
Typically, when something doesn't hold up it's because someone is doing something beyond the original design limitations, issues with assembly, or supplier QA. And often times the misuse piece I mentioned has to do with how said product was marketed (like saying something is track ready lol).
Dealership:
Hello, I’m your local dealership. I recently noticed that you like fun enthusiastic cars. So we have a wonderful car product we’d like to sell you, it’s called the GR86. It’s zippy, lightweight, rear wheel drive, drifts in nearly every commercial we advertise it in, and is available for you to pay me for right now. Isn’t that neat!?
Customer:
Hell yeah! Take my money!
Dealership:
Also, here’s a ticket to a track event where you can track the car — the way it was designed to be driven [handing customer the pamphlet which depicts a GR86 drifting on a track].
Customer:
No way!? Thanks!!!
Dealership:
Oh yeah, if anything happens that I don’t want to cover at that event, I won’t cover it. Especially if it goes against this other warranty type document that I will verbally ignore completely in our exchange, but give you a statement buried in this 500 page notebook hidden like a freaking unwanted treasure chest compartment in your glovebox that explicitly states you should under no circumstances drive it in the way I have up until this point insinuated to you was how this car was designed to be driven. What do you say!?
No one, but now apparently many of us:
This sounds like a wonderful and exciting proposition. I will take it!
Hello, I’m your local dealership. I recently noticed that you like fun enthusiastic cars. So we have a wonderful car product we’d like to sell you, it’s called the GR86. It’s zippy, lightweight, rear wheel drive, drifts in nearly every commercial we advertise it in, and is available for you to pay me for right now. Isn’t that neat!?
Customer:
Hell yeah! Take my money!
Dealership:
Also, here’s a ticket to a track event where you can track the car — the way it was designed to be driven [handing customer the pamphlet which depicts a GR86 drifting on a track].
Customer:
No way!? Thanks!!!
Dealership:
Oh yeah, if anything happens that I don’t want to cover at that event, I won’t cover it. Especially if it goes against this other warranty type document that I will verbally ignore completely in our exchange, but give you a statement buried in this 500 page notebook hidden like a freaking unwanted treasure chest compartment in your glovebox that explicitly states you should under no circumstances drive it in the way I have up until this point insinuated to you was how this car was designed to be driven. What do you say!?
No one, but now apparently many of us:
This sounds like a wonderful and exciting proposition. I will take it!
I know several people that beat on the car while deriving on the streets. Been doing it for months and no issues.Dealership:
Hello, I’m your local dealership. I recently noticed that you like fun enthusiastic cars. So we have a wonderful car product we’d like to sell you, it’s called the GR86. It’s zippy, lightweight, rear wheel drive, drifts in nearly every commercial we advertise it in, and is available for you to pay me for right now. Isn’t that neat!?
Customer:
Hell yeah! Take my money!
Dealership:
Also, here’s a ticket to a track event where you can track the car — the way it was designed to be driven [handing customer the pamphlet which depicts a GR86 drifting on a track].
Customer:
No way!? Thanks!!!
Dealership:
Oh yeah, if anything happens that I don’t want to cover at that event, I won’t cover it. Especially if it goes against this other warranty type document that I will verbally ignore completely in our exchange, but give you a statement buried in this 500 page notebook hidden like a freaking unwanted treasure chest compartment in your glovebox that explicitly states you should under no circumstances drive it in the way I have up until this point insinuated to you was how this car was designed to be driven. What do you say!?
No one, but now apparently many of us:
This sounds like a wonderful and exciting proposition. I will take it!
Then we have those who take the car for 1 day at the track and it blows.. not all owners of this car will track the vehicle, so Toyota should have a little more open to those with blown engines.
But yeah.. they are in the business to make money, not lose it.
Unless you have deep pockets, track the car and just expect the motor to blow at some point.
Couldn't you have a decent enough track car for 1/3 the money? Then you've got cash to spare for repairs & consumables.
My advice to all those planning to track the car (any), is to install the oil pressure and temperature gauge. Maybe a water temp. gauge would be a useful tool too. (Just to be on the safe side)
Hi there.....anyone knows what´s the latest on Toyota/Subaru investigation re-blowing GR86 engines? Any news? Tá.....
Total loss from engine failure? What the...$27,500? How's that?
They're all vax-injured, they can't help it.You’re obviously not the type to notice everyone you come in contact with is a brain dead idiot that literally does nothing right, especially at work. All I do is fix stupid these days. On the phone every day trying to fix something stupid, like today 1.5 hours with Simplisafe because the update they make people do screws every single customer’s system up. Idiots. It’s everywhere and if you stop and just say I’m going to trust people, I hope you’ve bought your grave space and have good life insurance if you have descendants because you’re trusting fools.
Pretty much. Go buy an e36/e46/NB Miata. Those are all seemingly more track reliable than the twins. Not that these cars shouldn’t be in a track or anything. But you should never track a car hardcore you are afraid to total. A few casual track nights are another story - but if you’re modding and chasing tenths, the prior applies.Couldn't you have a decent enough track car for 1/3 the money? Then you've got cash to spare for repairs & consumables.
Yes please stop tracking these cars, my wallet cant take the insurance hikes Yall! Stop the Mario Andretti fantasy! ( I couldn't think of another driver)
Mario Andretti is the man. I’ve seen him around Daytona a couple of times for his ride along thing he does. If you ever need to think of another driver just throw out Lewis Hamilton and you’ll start a flame war😂Yes please stop tracking these cars, my wallet cant take the insurance hikes Yall! Stop the Mario Andretti fantasy! ( I couldn't think of another driver)
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